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  <title>453: International Boomer Marooners</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>After reminiscing about .Net's 20th birthday, Mike and Chris air IBM's hypocritically dirty laundry and marvel at Microsoft's 3D chess moves.</itunes:subtitle>
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</li><li><a title="Microsoft announces new app store principles, aligning with Open App Markets Act" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/02/09/microsoft-app-store-principles/">Microsoft announces new app store principles, aligning with Open App Markets Act</a> &mdash; The rules come as Microsoft is attempting to win regulatory approval for the largest deal in the company’s history

</li><li><a title="Want a new Podcast App?" rel="nofollow" href="https://podcastindex.org/apps">Want a new Podcast App?</a></li><li><a title="Making ‘Dinobabies’ Extinct: IBM’s Push for a Younger Work Force" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/12/business/economy/ibm-age-discrimination.html">Making ‘Dinobabies’ Extinct: IBM’s Push for a Younger Work Force</a> &mdash; Documents released in an age-discrimination case appear to show high-level discussion about paring the ranks of older employees.</li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>After reminiscing about .Net&#39;s 20th birthday, Mike and Chris air IBM&#39;s hypocritically dirty laundry and marvel at Microsoft&#39;s 3D chess moves.</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://linode.com/coder">Linode</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://linode.com/coder">Receive a $100 60-day credit towards your new account. </a> Promo Code: linode.com/coder</li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="http://datadog.com/coderradio">Datadog</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://datadog.com/coderradio">Try Datadog free by starting a your 14-day trial and receive a free t-shirt once you install the agent.</a></li></ul><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Seattle Mazda drivers can’t tune their radios away from KUOW " rel="nofollow" href="https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/thanks-to-a-glitch-some-seattle-mazda-drivers-cant-tune-their-radios-away-from-kuow/">Seattle Mazda drivers can’t tune their radios away from KUOW </a> &mdash; Also gone from the infotainment center were such features as Bluetooth, navigation, the clock and vehicle stats — “Many of the features I paid for when I bought it new,” Welding says.</li><li><a title="How Microsoft hopes to secure Activision Blizzard takeover" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/09/microsoft_app_rules/">How Microsoft hopes to secure Activision Blizzard takeover</a> &mdash; "We have developed these principles in part to address Microsoft's growing role and responsibility as we start the process of seeking regulatory approval in capitals around the world for our acquisition of Activision Blizzard," said Microsoft president Brad Smith, in a blog post announcing Redmond's commitments.</li><li><a title="Microsoft Promises Openness on New App Store as It Seeks Approval for Activision Deal" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/microsoft-promises-openness-on-new-app-store-as-it-seeks-approval-for-activision-acquisition-11644424237?mod=djemalertNEWS">Microsoft Promises Openness on New App Store as It Seeks Approval for Activision Deal</a> &mdash; The move is a response to concerns raised by app developers and lawmakers about competition
</li><li><a title="Microsoft announces new app store principles, aligning with Open App Markets Act" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/02/09/microsoft-app-store-principles/">Microsoft announces new app store principles, aligning with Open App Markets Act</a> &mdash; The rules come as Microsoft is attempting to win regulatory approval for the largest deal in the company’s history

</li><li><a title="Want a new Podcast App?" rel="nofollow" href="https://podcastindex.org/apps">Want a new Podcast App?</a></li><li><a title="Making ‘Dinobabies’ Extinct: IBM’s Push for a Younger Work Force" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/12/business/economy/ibm-age-discrimination.html">Making ‘Dinobabies’ Extinct: IBM’s Push for a Younger Work Force</a> &mdash; Documents released in an age-discrimination case appear to show high-level discussion about paring the ranks of older employees.</li></ul>]]>
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  <title>383: Java Justice</title>
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  <pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2020 22:45:00 -0400</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<p>We have a different take on the Oracle v. Google case that may usher in an API copyright doom! Or so they say... </p>

<p>Plus we answer great feedback and chew on the future of Windows 10.</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://acloud.guru/learn/eacc77f8-54c2-427f-8c5c-e32e98123f5c/?utm_source=jupiter&amp;utm_medium=cpc">A Cloud Guru</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://acloud.guru/learn/eacc77f8-54c2-427f-8c5c-e32e98123f5c/?utm_source=jupiter&amp;utm_medium=cpc">Learn about some intermediate to advanced Python topics and see how to apply concepts you’ve already learned to solve different problems.</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://linode.com/coder">Linode</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://linode.com/coder">Receive a $100 60-day credit towards your new account. </a> Promo Code: linode.com/coder</li></ul><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Computer Scientists Break Traveling Salesperson Record" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.quantamagazine.org/computer-scientists-break-traveling-salesperson-record-20201008/?utm_source=pocket-newtab">Computer Scientists Break Traveling Salesperson Record</a> &mdash; After 44 years, there’s finally a better way to find approximate solutions to the notoriously difficult traveling salesperson problem.</li><li><a title="The unreasonable effectiveness of the Julia programming language" rel="nofollow" href="https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/10/the-unreasonable-effectiveness-of-the-julia-programming-language/">The unreasonable effectiveness of the Julia programming language</a></li><li><a title="No, Microsoft is not rebasing Windows to Linux" rel="nofollow" href="https://boxofcables.dev/no-microsoft-is-not-rebasing-windows-to-linux/">No, Microsoft is not rebasing Windows to Linux</a> &mdash; The choice will not really be Windows or Linux, it will be whether you boot Hyper-V or KVM first, and Windows and Ubuntu stacks will be tuned to run well on the other.</li><li><a title="Sun Microsystems - Wikipedia" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Microsystems">Sun Microsystems - Wikipedia</a></li><li><a title="Google LLC v. Oracle America, Inc. - Wikipedia" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_LLC_v._Oracle_America,_Inc.">Google LLC v. Oracle America, Inc. - Wikipedia</a></li><li><a title="Google’s Supreme Court faceoff with Oracle was a disaster for Google" rel="nofollow" href="https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/10/googles-supreme-court-faceoff-with-oracle-was-a-disaster-for-google/">Google’s Supreme Court faceoff with Oracle was a disaster for Google</a> &mdash; Supreme Court justices seem poised to allow copyrights on APIs.</li><li><a title="Android chief Andy Rubin said java.lang APIs are copyrighted in 2006 email" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.cnet.com/news/android-chief-andy-rubin-said-java-lang-apis-are-copyrighted-in-2006-email/">Android chief Andy Rubin said java.lang APIs are copyrighted in 2006 email</a> &mdash; In 2006 email thread, Rubin said that Sun owned the intellectual property and brand for Java and that the Java.lang APIs were copyrighted. Over the next several years his thinking changed.</li><li><a title="Oracle vs Google - Android chief Rubin quizzed over Java emails" rel="nofollow" href="https://jaxenter.com/oracle-vs-google-android-chief-rubin-quizzed-over-java-emails-104394.html">Oracle vs Google - Android chief Rubin quizzed over Java emails</a></li><li><a title="Former Sun CEO says Google&#39;s Android didn&#39;t need license for Java APIs" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.cnet.com/news/former-sun-ceo-says-googles-android-didnt-need-license-for-java-apis/">Former Sun CEO says Google's Android didn't need license for Java APIs</a> &mdash; Jonathan Schwartz testifies that Java APIs were not considered proprietary or protected by Sun, as long as Google didn't use the Java name</li><li><a title="The Mike Dominick Show Episode 39: Martin Wimpress of Canonical" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.automator.show/39">The Mike Dominick Show Episode 39: Martin Wimpress of Canonical</a></li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>We have a different take on the Oracle v. Google case that may usher in an API copyright doom! Or so they say... </p>

<p>Plus we answer great feedback and chew on the future of Windows 10.</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://acloud.guru/learn/eacc77f8-54c2-427f-8c5c-e32e98123f5c/?utm_source=jupiter&amp;utm_medium=cpc">A Cloud Guru</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://acloud.guru/learn/eacc77f8-54c2-427f-8c5c-e32e98123f5c/?utm_source=jupiter&amp;utm_medium=cpc">Learn about some intermediate to advanced Python topics and see how to apply concepts you’ve already learned to solve different problems.</a></li><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://linode.com/coder">Linode</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://linode.com/coder">Receive a $100 60-day credit towards your new account. </a> Promo Code: linode.com/coder</li></ul><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Computer Scientists Break Traveling Salesperson Record" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.quantamagazine.org/computer-scientists-break-traveling-salesperson-record-20201008/?utm_source=pocket-newtab">Computer Scientists Break Traveling Salesperson Record</a> &mdash; After 44 years, there’s finally a better way to find approximate solutions to the notoriously difficult traveling salesperson problem.</li><li><a title="The unreasonable effectiveness of the Julia programming language" rel="nofollow" href="https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/10/the-unreasonable-effectiveness-of-the-julia-programming-language/">The unreasonable effectiveness of the Julia programming language</a></li><li><a title="No, Microsoft is not rebasing Windows to Linux" rel="nofollow" href="https://boxofcables.dev/no-microsoft-is-not-rebasing-windows-to-linux/">No, Microsoft is not rebasing Windows to Linux</a> &mdash; The choice will not really be Windows or Linux, it will be whether you boot Hyper-V or KVM first, and Windows and Ubuntu stacks will be tuned to run well on the other.</li><li><a title="Sun Microsystems - Wikipedia" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Microsystems">Sun Microsystems - Wikipedia</a></li><li><a title="Google LLC v. Oracle America, Inc. - Wikipedia" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_LLC_v._Oracle_America,_Inc.">Google LLC v. Oracle America, Inc. - Wikipedia</a></li><li><a title="Google’s Supreme Court faceoff with Oracle was a disaster for Google" rel="nofollow" href="https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/10/googles-supreme-court-faceoff-with-oracle-was-a-disaster-for-google/">Google’s Supreme Court faceoff with Oracle was a disaster for Google</a> &mdash; Supreme Court justices seem poised to allow copyrights on APIs.</li><li><a title="Android chief Andy Rubin said java.lang APIs are copyrighted in 2006 email" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.cnet.com/news/android-chief-andy-rubin-said-java-lang-apis-are-copyrighted-in-2006-email/">Android chief Andy Rubin said java.lang APIs are copyrighted in 2006 email</a> &mdash; In 2006 email thread, Rubin said that Sun owned the intellectual property and brand for Java and that the Java.lang APIs were copyrighted. Over the next several years his thinking changed.</li><li><a title="Oracle vs Google - Android chief Rubin quizzed over Java emails" rel="nofollow" href="https://jaxenter.com/oracle-vs-google-android-chief-rubin-quizzed-over-java-emails-104394.html">Oracle vs Google - Android chief Rubin quizzed over Java emails</a></li><li><a title="Former Sun CEO says Google&#39;s Android didn&#39;t need license for Java APIs" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.cnet.com/news/former-sun-ceo-says-googles-android-didnt-need-license-for-java-apis/">Former Sun CEO says Google's Android didn't need license for Java APIs</a> &mdash; Jonathan Schwartz testifies that Java APIs were not considered proprietary or protected by Sun, as long as Google didn't use the Java name</li><li><a title="The Mike Dominick Show Episode 39: Martin Wimpress of Canonical" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.automator.show/39">The Mike Dominick Show Episode 39: Martin Wimpress of Canonical</a></li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Weapons of Mass Data</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2018 19:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>The Mad Botter</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>What is focus for the software industry? And is focus always a good thing, or can it lead to tunnel vision?</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:11:20</itunes:duration>
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  <description>What is focus for the software industry? And is focus always a good thing, or can it lead to tunnel vision? Plus we spend a bit more time saluting Sun Microsystems for their contribution to our industry. 
Plus some feedback, a bit of weekly Hoopla, and more! 
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    <![CDATA[<p>What is focus for the software industry? And is focus always a good thing, or can it lead to tunnel vision? Plus we spend a bit more time saluting Sun Microsystems for their contribution to our industry. </p>

<p>Plus some feedback, a bit of weekly Hoopla, and more!</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Patrick says don&#39;t over value those Google emails" rel="nofollow" href="https://pastebin.com/ycKPsBE6">Patrick says don't over value those Google emails</a></li><li><a title="Phil Says we don&#39;t talk about Sun Enough..." rel="nofollow" href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CoderRadio/comments/88anuo/staring_into_sun_coder_radio_302/dwjgei0/">Phil Says we don't talk about Sun Enough...</a></li><li><a title="Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs From 2020, Replacing Intel" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-02/apple-is-said-to-plan-move-from-intel-to-own-mac-chips-from-2020">Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs From 2020, Replacing Intel</a> &mdash; Apple working on software platform to merge iPad, Mac apps </li><li><a title="NeXT vs Sun - YouTube" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGhfB-NICzg">NeXT vs Sun - YouTube</a> &mdash; In 1991 Steve Jobs' company commissioned an head-to-head programming competition to show how much faster and easier it was to program a NeXT computer vs a Sun workstation. The NeXT operating system went on to be the foundation for Apple's Macintosh OS-X about a decade later.</li><li><a title="Sun Microsystems" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Microsystems">Sun Microsystems</a> &mdash; Sun was founded on February 24, 1982.</li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>What is focus for the software industry? And is focus always a good thing, or can it lead to tunnel vision? Plus we spend a bit more time saluting Sun Microsystems for their contribution to our industry. </p>

<p>Plus some feedback, a bit of weekly Hoopla, and more!</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Patrick says don&#39;t over value those Google emails" rel="nofollow" href="https://pastebin.com/ycKPsBE6">Patrick says don't over value those Google emails</a></li><li><a title="Phil Says we don&#39;t talk about Sun Enough..." rel="nofollow" href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CoderRadio/comments/88anuo/staring_into_sun_coder_radio_302/dwjgei0/">Phil Says we don't talk about Sun Enough...</a></li><li><a title="Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs From 2020, Replacing Intel" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-02/apple-is-said-to-plan-move-from-intel-to-own-mac-chips-from-2020">Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs From 2020, Replacing Intel</a> &mdash; Apple working on software platform to merge iPad, Mac apps </li><li><a title="NeXT vs Sun - YouTube" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGhfB-NICzg">NeXT vs Sun - YouTube</a> &mdash; In 1991 Steve Jobs' company commissioned an head-to-head programming competition to show how much faster and easier it was to program a NeXT computer vs a Sun workstation. The NeXT operating system went on to be the foundation for Apple's Macintosh OS-X about a decade later.</li><li><a title="Sun Microsystems" rel="nofollow" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Microsystems">Sun Microsystems</a> &mdash; Sun was founded on February 24, 1982.</li></ul>]]>
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  <title>Episode 302: Staring into Sun</title>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2018 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
  <author>The Mad Botter</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Sun Microsystems was fertile ground for what might be the largest developer upset in ten years. </itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>1:06:25</itunes:duration>
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  <description>Sun Microsystems was fertile ground for what might be the largest developer upset in ten years. We look back at some of the real innovations Sun brought us, discuss the latest developments in Oracle's suit against Google, and the massive shift Microsoft announced today.
This is one of those episodes we’ll be referencing back to for quite a while. 
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    <![CDATA[<p>Sun Microsystems was fertile ground for what might be the largest developer upset in ten years. We look back at some of the real innovations Sun brought us, discuss the latest developments in Oracle&#39;s suit against Google, and the massive shift Microsoft announced today.</p>

<p>This is one of those episodes we’ll be referencing back to for quite a while.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Airmail" rel="nofollow" href="https://itunes.apple.com/app/apple-store/id993160329?mt=8">Airmail</a> &mdash; Designed for the latest generation iOS, it supports 3D Touch, fast document previewing, high quality PDF creation, and native integration with other apps and services for a frictionless workflow.…</li><li><a title="Richard requests insights" rel="nofollow" href="https://pastebin.com/4wwMZG2C">Richard requests insights</a></li><li><a title="Google Could Owe Oracle $8.8 Billion in Android Fight - Bloomberg" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-27/oracle-wins-revival-of-billion-dollar-case-against-google">Google Could Owe Oracle $8.8 Billion in Android Fight - Bloomberg</a> &mdash; Google’s use of Java wasn’t ‘fair use,’ appeals court rules </li><li><a title="One Email Could Cost Google Billions in Its Fight With Oracle" rel="nofollow" href="http://fortune.com/2016/05/13/google-oracle-java-email/">One Email Could Cost Google Billions in Its Fight With Oracle</a> &mdash; “Wish them luck,” Rubin wrote. “Java.lang.apis are copyrighted. and sun [sic] gets to say who they license the tck to,” Rubin wrote.</li><li><a title="Google emails cast shadow over its defense against Oracle" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.siliconbeat.com/2016/05/13/google-emails-cast-shadow-over-its-defense-against-oracle/">Google emails cast shadow over its defense against Oracle</a> &mdash; In the 2010 email, Google software engineer Tim Lindholm tells Rubin that Google founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin had requested “technical alternatives to Java.”

“We’ve been over a bunch of these, and we think they all suck,” Lindholm wrote, according to Ars Technica. “We conclude that we need to negotiate a license for java under the terms we need.”

Rubin acknowledged he’d seen the message, the site reported.</li><li><a title="Backlash against tech companies is a wake-up call (opinion) - CNN" rel="nofollow" href="https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/29/opinions/tech-backlash-facebook-google-opinion-baker/index.html">Backlash against tech companies is a wake-up call (opinion) - CNN</a></li><li><a title="Snapchat is building the same kind of data-sharing API that just got Facebook into trouble  - Recode" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.recode.net/2018/3/27/17170552/snapchat-api-data-sharing-facebook">Snapchat is building the same kind of data-sharing API that just got Facebook into trouble  - Recode</a> &mdash; Snapchat is building a way for people to use their Snapchat account to connect with third-party apps. The idea, in theory, would let Snapchat users grant outside companies access to their Snapchat data to help personalize other services.</li><li><a title="Windows chief Myerson out in Microsoft reorganization | ZDNet" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-chief-myerson-out-in-microsoft-reorganization/">Windows chief Myerson out in Microsoft reorganization | ZDNet</a> &mdash; Microsoft's latest company reorg includes some major changes to its Windows and Devices organization, including the departure of its current leader, Terry Myerson.</li><li><a title="Thank you for 21 years, and onto the next chapter... | Terry Myerson | Pulse | LinkedIn" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/thank-you-21-years-onto-next-chapter-terry-myerson/?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_feed%3BTVCpJ1GoRTiz1C0SmnsyoQ%3D%3D">Thank you for 21 years, and onto the next chapter... | Terry Myerson | Pulse | LinkedIn</a></li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Sun Microsystems was fertile ground for what might be the largest developer upset in ten years. We look back at some of the real innovations Sun brought us, discuss the latest developments in Oracle&#39;s suit against Google, and the massive shift Microsoft announced today.</p>

<p>This is one of those episodes we’ll be referencing back to for quite a while.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Airmail" rel="nofollow" href="https://itunes.apple.com/app/apple-store/id993160329?mt=8">Airmail</a> &mdash; Designed for the latest generation iOS, it supports 3D Touch, fast document previewing, high quality PDF creation, and native integration with other apps and services for a frictionless workflow.…</li><li><a title="Richard requests insights" rel="nofollow" href="https://pastebin.com/4wwMZG2C">Richard requests insights</a></li><li><a title="Google Could Owe Oracle $8.8 Billion in Android Fight - Bloomberg" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-27/oracle-wins-revival-of-billion-dollar-case-against-google">Google Could Owe Oracle $8.8 Billion in Android Fight - Bloomberg</a> &mdash; Google’s use of Java wasn’t ‘fair use,’ appeals court rules </li><li><a title="One Email Could Cost Google Billions in Its Fight With Oracle" rel="nofollow" href="http://fortune.com/2016/05/13/google-oracle-java-email/">One Email Could Cost Google Billions in Its Fight With Oracle</a> &mdash; “Wish them luck,” Rubin wrote. “Java.lang.apis are copyrighted. and sun [sic] gets to say who they license the tck to,” Rubin wrote.</li><li><a title="Google emails cast shadow over its defense against Oracle" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.siliconbeat.com/2016/05/13/google-emails-cast-shadow-over-its-defense-against-oracle/">Google emails cast shadow over its defense against Oracle</a> &mdash; In the 2010 email, Google software engineer Tim Lindholm tells Rubin that Google founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin had requested “technical alternatives to Java.”

“We’ve been over a bunch of these, and we think they all suck,” Lindholm wrote, according to Ars Technica. “We conclude that we need to negotiate a license for java under the terms we need.”

Rubin acknowledged he’d seen the message, the site reported.</li><li><a title="Backlash against tech companies is a wake-up call (opinion) - CNN" rel="nofollow" href="https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/29/opinions/tech-backlash-facebook-google-opinion-baker/index.html">Backlash against tech companies is a wake-up call (opinion) - CNN</a></li><li><a title="Snapchat is building the same kind of data-sharing API that just got Facebook into trouble  - Recode" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.recode.net/2018/3/27/17170552/snapchat-api-data-sharing-facebook">Snapchat is building the same kind of data-sharing API that just got Facebook into trouble  - Recode</a> &mdash; Snapchat is building a way for people to use their Snapchat account to connect with third-party apps. The idea, in theory, would let Snapchat users grant outside companies access to their Snapchat data to help personalize other services.</li><li><a title="Windows chief Myerson out in Microsoft reorganization | ZDNet" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-chief-myerson-out-in-microsoft-reorganization/">Windows chief Myerson out in Microsoft reorganization | ZDNet</a> &mdash; Microsoft's latest company reorg includes some major changes to its Windows and Devices organization, including the departure of its current leader, Terry Myerson.</li><li><a title="Thank you for 21 years, and onto the next chapter... | Terry Myerson | Pulse | LinkedIn" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/thank-you-21-years-onto-next-chapter-terry-myerson/?lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_feed%3BTVCpJ1GoRTiz1C0SmnsyoQ%3D%3D">Thank you for 21 years, and onto the next chapter... | Terry Myerson | Pulse | LinkedIn</a></li></ul>]]>
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