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  <title>372: Crystal Clear</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>We're back and going crazy about Crystal, a statically typed language that's as fast as C and as slick as ruby.</itunes:subtitle>
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<p>Plus an update on Rails 6, Intel&#39;s growing adoption of Rust, and the challenge of making breaking changes.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Feedback: Academia and Industry" rel="nofollow" href="https://slexy.org/view/s207igrpde">Feedback: Academia and Industry</a> &mdash; Do either of you have any insights as to how the software development community would view someone with a math PhD, but no industry coding experience as a job applicant? Any advice would be appreciated.
</li><li><a title="Feedback: Absurd Abstractions" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CoderRadio/comments/ct01ux/absurd_abstractions_coder_radio_371/">Feedback: Absurd Abstractions</a> &mdash; FYI about wanting `interface` in Python: they are called abstract base classes. Check out the standard library module, abc for that and collections.abc some useful predefined container interfaces.

</li><li><a title="Feedback: Breaking Changes" rel="nofollow" href="https://slexy.org/view/s21lBcB8Op">Feedback: Breaking Changes</a> &mdash; I developed  a niche Python package that has some user following in the network security realm.  I’m at a crossroads though as a change I want to make will subtly break scripts that worked in previous/current versions.  The end result of my pending change  is good for the project but I fear I’ll ruin the workflow of my users.  Other than my github page I don’t know how to query/inform my users of this pending change.  What should I do?</li><li><a title="Ruby on Rails 6.0 Release Notes" rel="nofollow" href="https://edgeguides.rubyonrails.org/6_0_release_notes.html">Ruby on Rails 6.0 Release Notes</a> &mdash; Make Webpacker the default JavaScript compiler for Rails 6</li><li><a title="Intel and Rust: the Future of Systems Programming: Josh Triplett" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9hM0h6IQDo">Intel and Rust: the Future of Systems Programming: Josh Triplett</a> &mdash; Hear about how Intel is working to bring Rust to full parity with C, building the future of systems programming.</li><li><a title="Altruism Still Fuels the Web. Businesses Love to Exploit It | WIRED" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.wired.com/story/altruism-open-source-fuels-web-businesses-love-to-exploit-it/">Altruism Still Fuels the Web. Businesses Love to Exploit It | WIRED</a> &mdash; The original well-meaning, geeky architects of the web believed that there was an abundance of altruism in human nature—and they were more correct on this count, it turns out, than many esteemed social philosophers were. But they were too optimistic in overlooking the possibility that corporations would exploit and colonize this new realm. If only we had all seen it coming.</li><li><a title="The Crystal Programming Language" rel="nofollow" href="https://crystal-lang.org/">The Crystal Programming Language</a> &mdash; Crystal is statically type checked, so any type errors will be caught early by the compiler rather than fail on runtime. Moreover, and to keep the language clean, Crystal has built-in type inference, so most type annotations are unneeded.
</li><li><a title="The Imposter&#39;s Handbook by Rob Conery" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31572054-the-imposter-s-handbook">The Imposter's Handbook by Rob Conery</a> &mdash; You've had to learn on the job. New languages, new frameworks, new ways of doing things - a constant struggle just to stay current in the industry. This left no time to learn the foundational concepts and skills that come with a degree in Computer Science.</li></ul>]]>
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<p>Plus an update on Rails 6, Intel&#39;s growing adoption of Rust, and the challenge of making breaking changes.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Feedback: Academia and Industry" rel="nofollow" href="https://slexy.org/view/s207igrpde">Feedback: Academia and Industry</a> &mdash; Do either of you have any insights as to how the software development community would view someone with a math PhD, but no industry coding experience as a job applicant? Any advice would be appreciated.
</li><li><a title="Feedback: Absurd Abstractions" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CoderRadio/comments/ct01ux/absurd_abstractions_coder_radio_371/">Feedback: Absurd Abstractions</a> &mdash; FYI about wanting `interface` in Python: they are called abstract base classes. Check out the standard library module, abc for that and collections.abc some useful predefined container interfaces.

</li><li><a title="Feedback: Breaking Changes" rel="nofollow" href="https://slexy.org/view/s21lBcB8Op">Feedback: Breaking Changes</a> &mdash; I developed  a niche Python package that has some user following in the network security realm.  I’m at a crossroads though as a change I want to make will subtly break scripts that worked in previous/current versions.  The end result of my pending change  is good for the project but I fear I’ll ruin the workflow of my users.  Other than my github page I don’t know how to query/inform my users of this pending change.  What should I do?</li><li><a title="Ruby on Rails 6.0 Release Notes" rel="nofollow" href="https://edgeguides.rubyonrails.org/6_0_release_notes.html">Ruby on Rails 6.0 Release Notes</a> &mdash; Make Webpacker the default JavaScript compiler for Rails 6</li><li><a title="Intel and Rust: the Future of Systems Programming: Josh Triplett" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9hM0h6IQDo">Intel and Rust: the Future of Systems Programming: Josh Triplett</a> &mdash; Hear about how Intel is working to bring Rust to full parity with C, building the future of systems programming.</li><li><a title="Altruism Still Fuels the Web. Businesses Love to Exploit It | WIRED" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.wired.com/story/altruism-open-source-fuels-web-businesses-love-to-exploit-it/">Altruism Still Fuels the Web. Businesses Love to Exploit It | WIRED</a> &mdash; The original well-meaning, geeky architects of the web believed that there was an abundance of altruism in human nature—and they were more correct on this count, it turns out, than many esteemed social philosophers were. But they were too optimistic in overlooking the possibility that corporations would exploit and colonize this new realm. If only we had all seen it coming.</li><li><a title="The Crystal Programming Language" rel="nofollow" href="https://crystal-lang.org/">The Crystal Programming Language</a> &mdash; Crystal is statically type checked, so any type errors will be caught early by the compiler rather than fail on runtime. Moreover, and to keep the language clean, Crystal has built-in type inference, so most type annotations are unneeded.
</li><li><a title="The Imposter&#39;s Handbook by Rob Conery" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31572054-the-imposter-s-handbook">The Imposter's Handbook by Rob Conery</a> &mdash; You've had to learn on the job. New languages, new frameworks, new ways of doing things - a constant struggle just to stay current in the industry. This left no time to learn the foundational concepts and skills that come with a degree in Computer Science.</li></ul>]]>
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  <title>364: Gabbing About Go</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2019 22:15:00 -0400</pubDate>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Mike and Wes burrow into the concurrent world of Go and debate where it makes sense and where it may not.</itunes:subtitle>
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Plus gradual typing for Ruby, a new solution for Python packaging, and the real story behind Jony Ive's exit. 
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    <![CDATA[<p>Mike and Wes burrow into the concurrent world of Go and debate where it makes sense and where it may not.</p>

<p>Plus gradual typing for Ruby, a new solution for Python packaging, and the real story behind Jony Ive&#39;s exit.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Goroutines - Concurrency in Golang" rel="nofollow" href="https://golangbot.com/goroutines/">Goroutines - Concurrency in Golang</a> &mdash; Goroutines are functions or methods that run concurrently with other functions or methods. Goroutines can be thought of as light weight threads. The cost of creating a Goroutine is tiny when compared to a thread. </li><li><a title="Why build concurrency on the ideas of CSP?" rel="nofollow" href="https://golang.org/doc/faq#csp">Why build concurrency on the ideas of CSP?</a> &mdash; One of the most successful models for providing high-level linguistic support for concurrency comes from Hoare's Communicating Sequential Processes, or CSP. Occam and Erlang are two well known languages that stem from CSP. Go's concurrency primitives derive from a different part of the family tree whose main contribution is the powerful notion of channels as first class objects.</li><li><a title="Jony Ive ‘dispirited’ by Tim Cook’s lack of interest in product design" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/1/20676755/jony-ive-exit-tim-cook-disinterest-in-product">Jony Ive ‘dispirited’ by Tim Cook’s lack of interest in product design</a> &mdash; To many, Jony Ive’s announced departure from Apple last week felt very sudden. But a narrative is forming to suggest that he’s been slowly exiting for years as the company shifted priorities from product design to operations.</li><li><a title="CSP Paper" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~crary/819-f09/Hoare78.pdf">CSP Paper</a></li><li><a title="A Tour of Go" rel="nofollow" href="https://tour.golang.org/welcome/1">A Tour of Go</a> &mdash; These example programs demonstrate different aspects of Go. The programs in the tour are meant to be starting points for your own experimentation.

</li><li><a title="GoLand: A Clever IDE to Go by JetBrains" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.jetbrains.com/go/">GoLand: A Clever IDE to Go by JetBrains</a> &mdash; GoLand is cross-platform IDE built specially for Go developers.</li><li><a title="Google I/O 2013 - Advanced Go Concurrency Patterns" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDDwwePbDtw&amp;feature=youtu.be">Google I/O 2013 - Advanced Go Concurrency Patterns</a> &mdash; Concurrency is the key to designing high performance network services. This talk expands on last year's popular Go Concurrency Patterns talk to dive deeper into Go's concurrency primitives, and see how tricky concurrency problems can be solved gracefully with simple Go code.</li><li><a title="Michael Dominick on Twitter" rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/dominucco/status/1145405694839021571">Michael Dominick on Twitter</a> &mdash; Ok, so this is cool I have a fully working #rails dev environment up under #Windows usign #WSL and @PengwinLinux. Using @code for the editor. So far so good!</li><li><a title="Pengwin by Whitewater Foundry" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.pengwin.dev/">Pengwin by Whitewater Foundry</a> &mdash; Pengwin is a Linux environment for Windows 10 built on work by Microsoft Research and the Debian project.</li><li><a title="Open-sourcing Sorbet" rel="nofollow" href="https://sorbet.org/blog/2019/06/20/open-sourcing-sorbet">Open-sourcing Sorbet</a> &mdash; Sorbet is a fast, powerful type checker designed for Ruby. It scales to codebases with millions of lines of code and can be adopted incrementally.</li><li><a title="Sorbetting a gem, or the story of the first adoption" rel="nofollow" href="https://dev.to/evilmartians/sorbetting-a-gem-or-the-story-of-the-first-adoption-3j3p">Sorbetting a gem, or the story of the first adoption</a> &mdash; After reading about Brandon's first impression (highly recommend to check it out), I decided to give Sorbet a try and integrate it into one of my gems.</li><li><a title=" Gradual typing of Ruby at Scale" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFFJyp8vXQI"> Gradual typing of Ruby at Scale</a> &mdash; This talk shares experience of Stripe successfully been building a typechecker for internal use, including core design decisions made in early days of the project and how they withstood reality of production use
</li><li><a title="Building Standalone Python Applications with PyOxidizer" rel="nofollow" href="https://gregoryszorc.com/blog/2019/06/24/building-standalone-python-applications-with-pyoxidizer/">Building Standalone Python Applications with PyOxidizer</a> &mdash; PyOxidizer's marquee feature is that it can produce a single file executable containing a fully-featured Python interpreter, its extensions, standard library, and your application's modules and resources. In other words, you can have a single .exe providing your application. </li><li><a title="Packaging Your Code — The Hitchhiker&#39;s Guide to Python" rel="nofollow" href="https://docs.python-guide.org/shipping/packaging/">Packaging Your Code — The Hitchhiker's Guide to Python</a></li><li><a title="An Overview of Packaging for Python" rel="nofollow" href="https://packaging.python.org/overview/#depending-on-a-pre-installed-python">An Overview of Packaging for Python</a></li><li><a title="pex" rel="nofollow" href="https://github.com/pantsbuild/pex">pex</a> &mdash; pex is a library for generating .pex (Python EXecutable) files which are executable Python environments in the spirit of virtualenvs.</li><li><a title="shiv" rel="nofollow" href="https://github.com/linkedin/shiv#shiv">shiv</a> &mdash; shiv is a command line utility for building fully self-contained Python zipapps as outlined in PEP 441, but with all their dependencies included!

</li></ul>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Mike and Wes burrow into the concurrent world of Go and debate where it makes sense and where it may not.</p>

<p>Plus gradual typing for Ruby, a new solution for Python packaging, and the real story behind Jony Ive&#39;s exit.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Goroutines - Concurrency in Golang" rel="nofollow" href="https://golangbot.com/goroutines/">Goroutines - Concurrency in Golang</a> &mdash; Goroutines are functions or methods that run concurrently with other functions or methods. Goroutines can be thought of as light weight threads. The cost of creating a Goroutine is tiny when compared to a thread. </li><li><a title="Why build concurrency on the ideas of CSP?" rel="nofollow" href="https://golang.org/doc/faq#csp">Why build concurrency on the ideas of CSP?</a> &mdash; One of the most successful models for providing high-level linguistic support for concurrency comes from Hoare's Communicating Sequential Processes, or CSP. Occam and Erlang are two well known languages that stem from CSP. Go's concurrency primitives derive from a different part of the family tree whose main contribution is the powerful notion of channels as first class objects.</li><li><a title="Jony Ive ‘dispirited’ by Tim Cook’s lack of interest in product design" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/1/20676755/jony-ive-exit-tim-cook-disinterest-in-product">Jony Ive ‘dispirited’ by Tim Cook’s lack of interest in product design</a> &mdash; To many, Jony Ive’s announced departure from Apple last week felt very sudden. But a narrative is forming to suggest that he’s been slowly exiting for years as the company shifted priorities from product design to operations.</li><li><a title="CSP Paper" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~crary/819-f09/Hoare78.pdf">CSP Paper</a></li><li><a title="A Tour of Go" rel="nofollow" href="https://tour.golang.org/welcome/1">A Tour of Go</a> &mdash; These example programs demonstrate different aspects of Go. The programs in the tour are meant to be starting points for your own experimentation.

</li><li><a title="GoLand: A Clever IDE to Go by JetBrains" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.jetbrains.com/go/">GoLand: A Clever IDE to Go by JetBrains</a> &mdash; GoLand is cross-platform IDE built specially for Go developers.</li><li><a title="Google I/O 2013 - Advanced Go Concurrency Patterns" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDDwwePbDtw&amp;feature=youtu.be">Google I/O 2013 - Advanced Go Concurrency Patterns</a> &mdash; Concurrency is the key to designing high performance network services. This talk expands on last year's popular Go Concurrency Patterns talk to dive deeper into Go's concurrency primitives, and see how tricky concurrency problems can be solved gracefully with simple Go code.</li><li><a title="Michael Dominick on Twitter" rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/dominucco/status/1145405694839021571">Michael Dominick on Twitter</a> &mdash; Ok, so this is cool I have a fully working #rails dev environment up under #Windows usign #WSL and @PengwinLinux. Using @code for the editor. So far so good!</li><li><a title="Pengwin by Whitewater Foundry" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.pengwin.dev/">Pengwin by Whitewater Foundry</a> &mdash; Pengwin is a Linux environment for Windows 10 built on work by Microsoft Research and the Debian project.</li><li><a title="Open-sourcing Sorbet" rel="nofollow" href="https://sorbet.org/blog/2019/06/20/open-sourcing-sorbet">Open-sourcing Sorbet</a> &mdash; Sorbet is a fast, powerful type checker designed for Ruby. It scales to codebases with millions of lines of code and can be adopted incrementally.</li><li><a title="Sorbetting a gem, or the story of the first adoption" rel="nofollow" href="https://dev.to/evilmartians/sorbetting-a-gem-or-the-story-of-the-first-adoption-3j3p">Sorbetting a gem, or the story of the first adoption</a> &mdash; After reading about Brandon's first impression (highly recommend to check it out), I decided to give Sorbet a try and integrate it into one of my gems.</li><li><a title=" Gradual typing of Ruby at Scale" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFFJyp8vXQI"> Gradual typing of Ruby at Scale</a> &mdash; This talk shares experience of Stripe successfully been building a typechecker for internal use, including core design decisions made in early days of the project and how they withstood reality of production use
</li><li><a title="Building Standalone Python Applications with PyOxidizer" rel="nofollow" href="https://gregoryszorc.com/blog/2019/06/24/building-standalone-python-applications-with-pyoxidizer/">Building Standalone Python Applications with PyOxidizer</a> &mdash; PyOxidizer's marquee feature is that it can produce a single file executable containing a fully-featured Python interpreter, its extensions, standard library, and your application's modules and resources. In other words, you can have a single .exe providing your application. </li><li><a title="Packaging Your Code — The Hitchhiker&#39;s Guide to Python" rel="nofollow" href="https://docs.python-guide.org/shipping/packaging/">Packaging Your Code — The Hitchhiker's Guide to Python</a></li><li><a title="An Overview of Packaging for Python" rel="nofollow" href="https://packaging.python.org/overview/#depending-on-a-pre-installed-python">An Overview of Packaging for Python</a></li><li><a title="pex" rel="nofollow" href="https://github.com/pantsbuild/pex">pex</a> &mdash; pex is a library for generating .pex (Python EXecutable) files which are executable Python environments in the spirit of virtualenvs.</li><li><a title="shiv" rel="nofollow" href="https://github.com/linkedin/shiv#shiv">shiv</a> &mdash; shiv is a command line utility for building fully self-contained Python zipapps as outlined in PEP 441, but with all their dependencies included!

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